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PostSubject: Memory Lane   Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:28 am

Recently I was sorting through some papers and happened to find one of my old log books. It’s a 3-ring binder with pages of workout routines copied from various bodybuilding sources. Such things as “Frank Zane’s 3-Day Split,” “J. J. Marsh’s Back Workout,” the log is filled with names like Troy zuccolotto, Doug Larson, Gene Mozee, and Lee Haney. Kind of a walk down memory lane.

However the reason I’m posting this under “Injuries” instead of “Training Logs,” is that one of the pages is from somebody or other’s “Power and Bulk Routine.” The directions say that the lifter should be working with near-max weights, and that failure should come at about five reps. Evidently I tried to pursue this program for a while--my marginal comments indicate how successful I was:

“Ouch!” “Damn DOMS!” “Hurt my back again!” “Today skip anything that involves bending over.” “muscle strains aren’t fun…” and so forth.

The moral to this story seems to be that although progressive training is basic to the sport, it isn’t wise to try to train way beyond our ability. Also, we should keep in mind that when bodybuilders’ routines are published in magazines it is because those guys are champions, and they do things way beyond those of us who are amateurs. It’s probably true that there is more benefit in lifting lighter but with good form, than turning the workout into a power-lifting exercise.
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PostSubject: Re: Memory Lane   Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:55 am

What I remember from most of those guys is they did a ton of volume and forgot to mention that they took steriods, growth hormone, insulin and who knows what all else. I wasted a couple years trying to workout like they claimed they did. (I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even actually workout like they claimed.)
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PostSubject: Re: Memory Lane   Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:07 am

Yeah.
For example, Dorian Yates claimed to work out only 45 minutes a day, three exercises for each body part, using HUGE weights.
Yates was the size of a house! ...and probably taking a pharmacopeia of drugs.


Oh, here's a site that outlines Yates' workout:

http://muscleandbrawn.com/category/mab-workouts/body-building-workouts
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PostSubject: Re: Memory Lane   Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:08 am

I remember reading about Yates low volume routine way back when he was the top guy in bbing. But he was an exception at the time. Most of those guys were doing 25 sets per bodypart.

I remember also hearing about him having scar tissue removed from his butt that was there in the first place because of a "motorcyle accident." And at his last Olympia he ripped his tricep muscle off (and still won.)

I think heavy with low volume is probably a much better idea than high volume, but you have to ultimately do what you're body can stand.
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PostSubject: Re: Memory Lane   Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:54 am

Dorian ended up a mess & had to back off training for years. I think he could train so hard so often thanks to the drugs, but couldn't get the tendons & ligaments the same boost & so over the years...well you get the picture. I think for drug-free guys shorter routines do work well, as you can work hard, but if you go beyond your recovery you know about it pale so it is self moderating to an extent that drug-takers don't get (not that you can't still hurt yourself being extra keen).
I do know a guy who has great leg muscular endurance & worked out with Tom Platz when he visited England once. He managed half a leg workout with him before he had to bow out. He still couldn't move throughout the whole second half of Platz's workout, the guy was apparently a beast who just worked & worked on legs, set after set for several hours (not light either). Apparently Tom is really cool & polite but in the gym he turns kind of insane pushing well beyond what most of us can do (yes there are drugs involved for this kind of leg development).

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PostSubject: Re: Memory Lane   Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:14 am

He would look better if his waist was thinner. They all would. That's growth hormone though I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Memory Lane   Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:26 am

Yea, I prefer the older look myself as well. I know this makes me sound old, but they all look the same these days!

You seem to have 2 choices - either you go the drug-routine & get massively bloated, or you go the drug-free route which is slowly turning into a 'see how skinny you can get' contest. It's all about conditioning & nothing about size.
Compare that to a Steve Reeves




John Grimek



Steve Stanko




John Davies


Right up to:

Frank Zane




& a few other 70's bodybuilders - beyond that it got a little too druggie for them to look so good - much bigger, but not such a good shape.
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