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 What do vegetarians think of omnivores such bears and chimpanzees?

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PostSubject: What do vegetarians think of omnivores such bears and chimpanzees?   Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:00 am

Humans are natural omnivores and some people go out of their way to say it's wrong to eat other animals (keep in mind humans are animals) but why is it okay for other animals like chimps to eat other creatures and not us?

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PostSubject: Re: What do vegetarians think of omnivores such bears and chimpanzees?   Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:10 am

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Also, this is the natural fallacy.
How does one actually define "natural". And how does "natural" equal ethical?
Chimps do a lot of things by the way, that I wouldn't do. Like throw their shit at each other and occasionally eat people's faces off while they're still alive.
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PostSubject: Re: What do vegetarians think of omnivores such bears and chimpanzees?   Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:59 pm

What you must understand is that us humans are no longer living how our ancestors did. We have evolved through time to gradually eat less and less meat. If you look at the skulls of our primate ancestors we evolved from you would notice a longer snout like jaw, this is used to eat meat more efficiently. Now we are reduced to a fairly flat snout and many incisor teeth are now flat like herbavors. This means we are omnivors, but should primarily eat more plants than meat.

Lets go forward to ancient "hunter and gatherer" tribes that evolved. They had to eat meat because they did not have an array of fruits and vegetables, legumes, nuts, etc available to them all the time. Meat is necessary for certain nutrients. Later on we became more or less stable communities that took up agriculture. Now that we grow our own food we have more selection of what to eat.

Now we have a huge selection in supermarkets and specialty stores. We can eat whatever we want now. Meat is no longer necessary to live off of. Actually we have gone so far removed from meat that none of us could really eat it how it is meant to be. Could you picture yourself biting into an animal and tearing off its flesh while its still hot and gushing in your mouth. Does the taste of hot meat and warm blood make your mouth water? Probably not.... now we have to cook and process it in order to eat it. This is not natural, so therefore meat is not natural. But on the other hand we can picture biting into a juicy fruit and enjoy it, now that is natural.

There are also many ethical issues with meat and how animals are treated. More so with the amount of energy put into it.

Bottom line is... if you live in the wild and hunt your own food, then meat is fine. But living in our artificial environment is not ok because animals suffer to feed us.

Another point... Why live like a caveman and eat meat? clearly evolution shows we grow more and more towards a plant based diet. One can assume that with that current trend, our future generations will evolve to be herbavors... why not help the evolution and eat more plants.
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