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PostSubject: Hayfever season   Thu May 05, 2011 10:16 am

Here's what I've done in the past for hayfever:
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I thought I'd do a quick bit about my experiences of training while
suffering from hayfever. Basically for a few months I get running nose,
puffy & runny eyes, tiredness the whole thing. I don't take anti-histamine
or any other drugs & for a few years I've been searching for things that can
help me overcome the symptoms & ways of training through the bad times.

Things I take:

Here's some of the things I've found that aid the symptoms
Water - drinking a lot of water appears to help me. I mean enough so every
30-40 minutes you're needing to urinate. It does make journeys a bit of a
pain as you have to plan via the local public conveniences, but flushing out
like this does seem to lessen the symptoms.

Vitamin C - I take 3 grams a day, 1 gram with each with a solid meal. This
also seems to minimise my symptoms

Petroleum (or similar) jelly - Simple as it sounds simply applying up the
nostrils (gross as it looks to do!) does act to catch some of that pesky
pollen & keep it away for the skin, so you get less symptoms. Best to apply
early before you get any symptoms so you're not trapping pollen next to the

Glutamine - I use l-glutamine pre & post training for its immune system
boosting effects. I've found it helps me a lot to recover from workouts
just about all season, but during summer it's about top of my training
supplement list.

Things you can do:

Change clothes - When you're really bad you can change to indoor clothes
when you get in, this removes any pollen you bring in with your clothes, you
should also...

Wash - wash your hands & face when you get in to remove any pollen from your
face & hands.


OK I'll be honest here, basically I try to hang on during the rough times.
Hayfever is a lot like having a bad cold, but it can last for several
months. Imagine what that's doing to your immune system, recovery systems
etc! A lot of people I know (me included) experience a big strength dip
during 'the season' & you just have to accept that, your body is dealing
with a lot & strength is a 'luxury product', so you just aren't going to be
hitting PR's at this time of year. The best you can do,... is your best.
If you're really tired then abbreviate. 25-30 minutes can be enough to get
it done if you must, split up your training, maybe a few shorter sessions,
more often can be done than longer sessions. Less weight on the bar may be
the only way to make reps when you feel weak. You'll have to really swallow
your ego here & settle for tiny weights if your strength is affected by
hayfever. Just remember the old standby that it is intensity that matters
during training, not the weight actually on the bar. If the job is done
with 10 pounds, then 10 pounds is what you should be using, really listen to
your body & if you forget about the weight on the bar you can still get a
nice workout even with dinky weights (focus on form & full range & squeezing
the muscles etc).

Remember that keeping training constant over the hayfever season will pay
big dividends when you get over the problem. You've worked through the
hardest time of the year for you & as things get easier your weights will go
up & as it's not as hard to train at other times of the year keeping going
will be almost a break!

I'll give you a brief rundown of how I workout over the hayfever season.
Bear in mind this is me & you are different, so you will almost certainly
need to remodel to suit your goals.

First thing - cardio (cardio varies at this time of year I like to jog along
the seafront, but it can be anything you fancy) followed by pilates (I
actually run my girlfriend through a pilates session as she suffers from
fibromyalgia & it's about the only style of training I've found that suits
her without aggravating the condition & she enjoys enough to do regularly).
I find that running (or other cardio) actually seems to help the hayfever, I
don't go far or fast. The pilates is more of a stretch for me than anything
else after the run (or other cardio) & it gives me a chance to spend some
time am with my girlfriend (which is nice :-) ), after those I usually eat a
meal or two then my next training is usually either around mid-day or
afternoon for weights, if it's a bad week I tend to train more often during
the week, but split my bodyparts up more (so one bodypart per day) maybe six
sessions per week each of 30 minutes or so, but when I feel a bit better I
go to a more normal 3 or 4 sessions a week with several bodyparts per

I actually do more cardio than normal during the bad times as I find it
helps, I also make a conscious effort to eat as appetite seems to dwindle
during the rough times, but with the extra cardio you need to help keep the
muscle there.

Pre-cardio I always take BCAA's (branch chain amino acids) to spare muscle
tissue being burnt as fuel & glutamine, I have tried carnitine as it can
increase energy, but I've not noticed a difference myself.

Oh yea, obviously drinking alcohol, doing drugs etc tends to make hayfever
worse (& as your in training you shouldn't be doing them anyway), so if you
can knock off or at least moderate these activities.

I think that's about it for my basic hayfever plan. Just thought some of
you might be suffering a bit more than me & something here might help? You
might even have stumbled across some things that I haven't as well, if you
have bung them up & we'll see if we can't sort out the ultimate
anti-hayfever program :-)

So that was the basic plan I'd followed. I have noticed for me that wheat seems to trigger stronger reactions, so I tend to avoid it during the season. This year that got me thinking. I'm experimenting with co enzyme q10 & glutamine several times a day. Both aid the stomach in different ways, but both will lessen the assimilation of unwanted proteins through the stomach. I was thinking that if wheat can cause hayfever to get worse could this be because wheat proteins trigger or worsen hayfever? If so, by making the gut better (q10 has been shown to lessen leaky gut & glutamine is the best fuel for the gut to use) then maybe hayfever will be less. I have zero evidence for this, it is all theory I just made up this year when thinking about it, but as I happen to have glutamine in right now & my partner is using q10, then why not give it a go & see how I am this year.
Anyway I'm not suggesting that you try this, but I'm just letting you know what I'm trying out right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Hayfever season   Fri May 06, 2011 6:29 pm

I wonder if avoiding caffeine could help?
The most crucial stress hormone produced by the adrenals is cortisol. When the adrenals are fatigued or exhausted they no longer produce enough cortisol. When there isn't sufficient cortisol in the body, then the individual is susceptible to auto-immune disorders, chronic pain syndromes, chronic fatigue, asthma, allergies and more. In an attempt to self-medicate the many symptoms that occur as a result of a malfunctioning adrenal gland, the individual often reaches for drugs and alcohol, or caffeine and sugar which only perpetuates the problem even further.
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PostSubject: Re: Hayfever season   Sat May 07, 2011 2:49 am

Maybe, the only caffeine I really have is from green tea (I have about 5 or 6 different teas that I rotate, so every cuppa is different throughout the day), so it's usually only 1 cup a day.
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PostSubject: Re: Hayfever season   Mon May 09, 2011 6:34 am

A single cup of coffee a day is definitely enough to have a negative effect on some people. But I guess a cup of green tea is much less.

Back when I was having heart palpitations I was drinking a mix of green tea/black tea. But I was making a pot almost every day and having probably 4 or 5 cups a day plus a cup or two of coffee at work plus chocolate almost daily. In retrospect that was causing my heart issues, which have gone away now, that I avoid basically all caffeine. Also, my headache issues I had started getting (not long after I started drinking coffee a few years back) went away.

Anyway though, people often get allergies as they age and I haven't really heard a good reason why such would suddenly happen. The idea of adrenal gland fatigue is the best idea I'm aware of.
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PostSubject: Re: Hayfever season   Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:58 pm

The Ozark mountains are heavily wooded with Red Oak trees. These produce large amounts of pollen in the spring, so much so that clouds of drifting yellow pollen are visible when the wind blows. For people who are allergic to this the results aren't much fun, it even makes my dog and cats sneeze. Personally I find that for a couple of weeks I have symptoms similar to a mild cold. Running the air conditioner in the gym tends to filter out some of the pollen, so it's not too bad.
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