Vegan Bodybuilding Forum

The Forum of www.veganbodybuilding.org
 
HomeHome  CalendarCalendar  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  UsergroupsUsergroups  RegisterRegister  Log in  
This board is closing down - we are moving to a new permanent home at http://www.veganbodybuilding.org/forum/

Share | 
 

 POST-ACTIVATION POTENTIATION

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
john machin

avatar

Posts : 165
Join date : 2009-07-27
Age : 49
Location : Cheshire, UK

PostSubject: POST-ACTIVATION POTENTIATION   Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:18 pm

Just reading about “Complex Training”, whereby 6 plyometric (explosive) reps and a five-minute rest makes the muscle perform better when you perform the same exercise isotonically – i.e., slower, 4-5 second reps. It also works vice versa – making the plyometric reps better by first performing 5 isotonic reps to failure.

The effect is called “post-activation potentiation”. Shocked No one knows for sure why it happens; just that it does.

Has anyone tried this, and to what effect?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://wwww.placeinumbria.com
Pete
Admin
avatar

Posts : 1279
Join date : 2009-07-26
Age : 51
Location : UK

PostSubject: Re: POST-ACTIVATION POTENTIATION   Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:37 am

I've never really tried out a PAP-style protocol. I've used some bastardised versions, like band speed squats after heavy squats that might be seen to fit into that. From a purely anecdotal aspect the idea of heavy loading before using lighter stuff has really been around for at least over half a century in some forms. Pre-loading & doing partials or negatives or even lock-outs to make a weight 'seem light' has been used in some form since at least then, this is a kind of formalisation of that effect into a training philosophy.
When you look for research on PAP itself, there's not that much in the way of research to back it up, not like many other protocols that are out there.
The main aspects seem to be:

1/ You need to be a good condition athlete to benefit
2/ The muscle (or muscles) in question need to be a high % of fast twitch muscle fibre (although some research has suggested that possibly endurance athletes benefit from this effect there is much less evidence for this)
3/ The effect is a direct one on the muscle used, so you must train the same muscle group involved in both activities.
4/ You must rest at least 5 minutes between the first & second exercise (an especially hard one for our man John!) as otherwise fatigue will affect performance
5/The rumour Ben Johnson did a heavy 600 pound squat minutes before his world record sprint is false (it's a common rumour, Charlie Francis, his trainer, squashed that rumour Laughing )

Bear in mind this is an unproven training device. & like many training protocols I suspect it may work for some guys, but not for others. I'd imagine an Olympic lifter might want to consider something like this as you could heavy squat, deadlift or even a hang high pull, then do a much lighter snatch or clean. That might be an experiment worth doing if you were a O-lifter.
Even if people have got good results, that doesn't mean you'll get good results, so start cautiously & see how you get on.
Sorry I couldn't offer more on this one.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://veganbodybuilding.userboard.net
 
POST-ACTIVATION POTENTIATION
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» POST: pics of your XRR w/ various gas tanks and t
» Interesting post on NERR High shool vs Prep school
» Craig Anderson Info from the Denver Post
» BST Under & Post Grad Summer League
» Post Run Muscle Twitch...

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Vegan Bodybuilding Forum :: Training with weights-
Jump to: