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PostSubject: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:41 am

Caffeine is a massive help to me pre-workout (I do the gym at 6.30am! Sleep ). But I've heard it can interfere with creatine absorption. Anyone know for sure?
Also, caffeine has the effect of narrowing the arteries. Arginine, another pre-workout supp, has the effect of widening the arteries (vasodilation). Yet, most brand-name pre-workout formula (aka NO supplements) combine both ingredients. How sensible is THAT Question


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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:48 am

If you mean caffine as coffee just take your creatine 1st then wash done with your coffee
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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:02 am

There was one study that started the caffeine/creatine antagonist story. The results 'seemed' to indicate that one worked against the other. I don't think that has been found again - as a side note if you look at creatine research several of the studies used creatine & a placebo, to disguise the creatine a drink that contained caffeine was used & didn't appear to stop gains in those studies. I'd say if you were concerned or didn't see gains then maybe think about choosing, but if you're getting gains & the caffeine & creatine both appear to be working, then I wouldn't worry.
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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:29 am

Yes right there Pete they give it to racehorses in tea that,s where creatine 1st came from
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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:07 am

RobbieVegan wrote:
If you mean caffine as coffee just take your creatine 1st then wash done with your coffee
Robbie
I use pure caffeine powder; just 200mg - 1/16th teaspoon - is enough to get you hyper enough for a sweating-blood-out-of-your-forehead workout.


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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:17 am

Ok John I can,t see that affecting wack it down ya,me I would need about 4times that amount
I like a really really really strong coffee and me women really x4 dirty lol
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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:21 am

I was trying to think if one could mix up a basically "home made" NO Xplode or at least, try some of the ingredients without going "pre-mixed", so I got some L-Arginine amino acid capsules. The directions on the bottle of Arginine suggests one drink it with a carbonated drink to facilitate absorption.

That's why at least it seems NO-Xplode fizzes up, they make it that way but I'm not positive if some other Nitric Oxide varieties do that.

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Caffeine, basically many of us are addicted to it and in some ways, I don't like that, I've tried to cut way back, some of those get you way up BUT...

"Coffee is also a powerful stimulant for peristalsis and is sometimes considered to prevent constipation. However, coffee can also cause excessively loose bowel movements. The stimulative effect of coffee consumption on the colon is found in both caffeinated and decaffeinated coffee."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_coffee#Laxative.2Fdiuretic

I also don't like the way a cup of coffee like quite a few other things out there, can sort of loosen things up inside at inopportune moments. Seems it may do that more now than when I started drinking many years ago. That said, I've cut way down on caffeine and basically only drink black tea though that isn't that much different.

Caffeine, especially in western civilisation I think is depended on way too much.
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PostSubject: Re: Caffeine+Creatine/Arginine   Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:40 pm

PhysCultureFan wrote:
I was trying to think if one could mix up a basically "home made" NO Xplode or at least, try some of the ingredients without going "pre-mixed", so I got some L-Arginine amino acid capsules. The directions on the bottle of Arginine suggests one drink it with a carbonated drink to facilitate absorption.

That's why at least it seems NO-Xplode fizzes up, they make it that way but I'm not positive if some other Nitric Oxide varieties do that.

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Caffeine, basically many of us are addicted to it and in some ways, I don't like that, I've tried to cut way back, some of those get you way up BUT...

"Coffee is also a powerful stimulant for peristalsis and is sometimes considered to prevent constipation. However, coffee can also cause excessively loose bowel movements. The stimulative effect of coffee consumption on the colon is found in both caffeinated and decaffeinated coffee."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_coffee#Laxative.2Fdiuretic

I also don't like the way a cup of coffee like quite a few other things out there, can sort of loosen things up inside at inopportune moments. Seems it may do that more now than when I started drinking many years ago. That said, I've cut way down on caffeine and basically only drink black tea though that isn't that much different.

Caffeine, especially in western civilisation I think is depended on way too much.

thanks for your post, every day i drink 4 coffe cup, i worrying hic hic, maybe i don't drink coffee now










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